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Community Goal: New Composer Program

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Hi All,

For two years now we have served as the main (and only really) NA music site community, and music database. We have done what we can to continue to update 3MLE all though we are limited to only updating the instrument sounds. 3MLE has always been a "well, it's good enough" type of thing and it has served us well but with the recent addition of MusicQ you can now have way more than 15 tracks. We will not be able to edit 3MLE to include any tracks past the 15 it has, and no one has seen or spoke to ALOE in years. (Seriously, like 8 years).

We have to decided to (*attempt) to run a community donation drive to pay for a new program. Unfortunately developers are not cheap, and even more so because we are a nich part of the market even for a well versed developer. They will have to research what MML even is, learn about it and how it works before they can even implement it into a program for us. So our cost is already a little higher due to this.

The good news is, we can get the source code of the program since we are commissioning the product and continue to upgrade, and improve it over time with no limitations. We plan on redesigning the entire layout to allow it to be more organized such as being able to group tracks together and showing them down the side. Instant preview generations in mp3 format, a higher (or unlimited) track limit, and just hopefully improve the over all user experience of the program.

In the future we want to do things like link it to our REST API for the website and have it automatically pull and download submissions from our website into the program. Let logged in members, chat and instantly share files with one another within the composer program.

 

I will be updating this post shortly with more information, but if you contribute at least $10 or more to the project then you will be eligible for the following rewards:

  • - A special Donation rank, and color.
  • - A special Achievement Badge that will display on all posts and your profile showing that you supported the development of the project.
  • - Added to the thanks/contributor list on the download page for the new program.
  • - Added to the thanks/contributor list inside the actual program in the About section.
  • - Access to the private development forum once the goal is reached to give us feedback, take part in testing, and more.

 

If you contribute at least $50 or more to the project then you will be eligible for a direct feature suggestion. (As in we will work with you, to implement something directly into the program that you desire.) Please note, that the suggestion will need to be realistic. You do not have to tell us what you want right away, it can be at a later time as well.

 

Note - You CAN donate Anonymously, and you can also Hide the amount you have donated from others.

 

We really hope the community, can come together and help us with this project! Even if the entire goal is not reached, every single bit helps us so we do not have to fund the entire project out of pocket.

You can donate by going here.


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1 hour ago, XuetankBoi said:

you know what'd be very cool?

if the new program composed like how Vocaloid softwares work(which is basicly click the note and drag to the length you want)  XOXOXOXO!!!! thatd be AWSOMESSSAASASA

I'd appreciate this too. It's so nice to be able to extend a note without everything else moving with it. Only issue I see is they'd have to make sure that it extends in increments (64s?), that way you don't end up getting ridiculous numbers like e4.&e17.&e37, etc.

Another feature I'd like to see that's also in Vocaloid is just being able to draw things on with your cursor. Or select a large area and easily be able to move it up or down or sideways.

Honestly though, I'd be okay with just 3MLE + more tracks. I'm just excited to be able to maybe finally complete one song I have that has over 50 tracks (which is going to be majorly reduced, but it's hard when I can't even play them all at the same time to see how they work.

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Hmm... Being able to play a song from a keyboard straight into the program? For example, there are a couple of songs I know on the piano that i'd like to make MMLs out of but I don't want to go through the trouble of handwriting it. So maybe if you have a keyboard that you can plug into your computer, than you should be able to play the song on your keyboard and have it read on the program.

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5 hours ago, Pheonixfera said:

Hmm... Being able to play a song from a keyboard straight into the program? For example, there are a couple of songs I know on the piano that i'd like to make MMLs out of but I don't want to go through the trouble of handwriting it. So maybe if you have a keyboard that you can plug into your computer, than you should be able to play the song on your keyboard and have it read on the program.

I considered this, but unless their is already a Midi -><- Piano library already written in C# that is open source and easily usable it would be expensive to ask him to write from scratch. I will wait to ask about that until after more pressing features, and donator features are fulfilled.

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I felt like I was the most annoying person in the Discord since I talked so much, so I left in case someone was planning to get me banned... which wouldn't surprise me.
Honestly, this community just isn't for me now that I think about it. I just stood out far too much in a way, though I can't really explain how.

I'm guessing that the WIP looks great though. I'll just wait for the finished product to release, whenever that will be.

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4 hours ago, Omnicity said:

I felt like I was the most annoying person in the Discord since I talked so much, so I left in case someone was planning to get me banned... which wouldn't surprise me.
Honestly, this community just isn't for me now that I think about it. I just stood out far too much in a way, though I can't really explain how.

I'm guessing that the WIP looks great though. I'll just wait for the finished product to release, whenever that will be.

Little to no one talks since you left. TBH chat has been dead for weeks.

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I am considering on taking another approach since I seem to be having trouble getting this written in C#. It might be actually easier at this point (relatively speaking) to make it a Web App instead. Using something like Node or Ruby + Vue and Angular on the front end. Would anyone actually have objections to this? The benefit is it is always up to date, the downside it if you don't already have it loaded/open in a tab you couldn't use it if offline.

But we could replicate the features of 3mle in it, and even use the API to connect it to MabiBeats directly. Submit straight from the composer, or load music from it.

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Personally, I think both sides have their perks. However, I think I'm gonna have to agree with Lachesis on this. It's very handy to be able to compose offline in the event that you lose internet. Because I don't know if it'd be possible to save a composition with the app if you lose net all of a sudden. Although I suppose you could always copy the code to notepad...but eh. [/shrugs] As for connectivity, copy and pasting the code from 3MLE/the program to Mabibeats shouldn't really be that difficult. Therefore, I think I'll stick by the standalone program opinion.

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